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O.city 01-28-2013 06:22 PM

Chiefs fans were ok with Tyson Jackson, they better get on board.

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359351)
Chiefs fans were ok with Tyson Jackson, they better get on board.

I just dont get how any Chiefs fan WOULDN'T want this:

http://s20.postimage.org/4lbwk2z17/ROx_Qp.gif

http://s20.postimage.org/ln9bzx3a3/Swu_R4.gif

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It's just amazing how a fanbase who's had to deal with Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn, Tyler Palko, Brodie Croyle, Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen the last 7 years wouldn't want or be happy with a QB who's a MAJOR upgrade to all of them in every way right away. Amazes me.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:35 PM

As a whole, the Chiefs fan base is a giant true fan. They really just want to be safe, have Arrowhead full, and BBQ in the air.


However, like it's been said before, drafting a QB at 1 is win win. The true fans will be happy, cause they don't care who we pick, and the real fans will be happy.

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359389)
As a whole, the Chiefs fan base is a giant true fan. They really just want to be safe, have Arrowhead full, and BBQ in the air.


However, like it's been said before, drafting a QB at 1 is win win. The true fans will be happy, cause they don't care who we pick, and the real fans will be happy.

Yep.

I just dont understand how taking a QB is any "riskier" than taking any other position. Have these true fans not seen our D-Line busts the past decade!?

Other positions bust just as much as QBs. QBs should be the only position where you shouldn't be "afraid" to pick because its by far the most important position and if you don't have one, you're going nowhere.

Yet its the other way around with these true fans. Doesn't make any sense.

Sorter 01-28-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359346)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBuonxKCcAECMKT.jpg:large


Looks like he's been working pretty hard.

dat quad

O.city 01-28-2013 06:41 PM

Well, for one, CP is the small small percent of fans. Most of them are pretty superficial in that they listen to 810, 610, ESPN etc. They just go along with what they are told.


If the sports radio here would get guys on that said, "The Chiefs should take a QB, Geno/Wilson/Barkley are absolutely worth it, can't win without one" etc, they would be fine with it.


Here in a month, they'll be fine with it.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-28-2013 06:42 PM

@evansilva: ESPN's @mortreport called Luke Joeckel "probably the frontrunner" to go No. 1 to #Chiefs, but he's "got a feeling" Andy Reid may take a QB.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:43 PM

There is a fair amount of buzz building that the Chiefs will take a QB, basically like most here thought there would be.

-King- 01-28-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359389)
As a whole, the Chiefs fan base is a giant true fan. They really just want to be safe, have Arrowhead full, and BBQ in the air.


However, like it's been said before, drafting a QB at 1 is win win. The true fans will be happy, cause they don't care who we pick, and the real fans will be happy.

Go to any chiefs forum, the vast majority of Chiefs fan want a QB. They amy not be on the Geno bandwagon but they want a QB.
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the Talking Can 01-28-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9359412)
@evansilva: ESPN's @mortreport called Luke Joeckel "probably the frontrunner" to go No. 1 to #Chiefs, but he's "got a feeling" Andy Reid may take a QB.

anyone projecting joeckel to us should have to explain letting a top 10 LT walk for a - at best - marginal upgrade...


can't wait till we hear rumors of albert re-signing

O.city 01-28-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9359423)
Go to any chiefs forum, the vast majority of Chiefs fan want a QB. They amy not be on the Geno bandwagon but they want a QB.
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Yeah, they may say they want one, but they want it to be a safe, sure thing.

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9359435)
anyone projecting joeckel to us should have to explain letting a top 10 LT walk for a - at best - marginal upgrade...


can't wait till we hear rumors of albert re-signing

Me either.

When does FA start by the way?

Once we re-sign Albert, all the talk will be us taking a QB...most likely Geno.

-King- 01-28-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359440)
Yeah, they may say they want one, but they want it to be a safe, sure thing.

What?
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HolyHat 01-28-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9359442)
Me either.

When does FA start by the way?

Once we re-sign Albert, all the talk will be us taking a QB...most likely Geno.

couple days after the SB

-King- 01-28-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9359442)
Me either.

When does FA start by the way?

Once we re-sign Albert, all the talk will be us taking a QB...most likely Geno.

I think teams can start signing their own FAs first week of march.
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O.city 01-28-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9359445)
What?
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Maybe I'm reading them wrong, but listening to 810 and 610, I hear alot of guys who are against taking a QB at 1. Stan Weber is leading the charge actually.

-King- 01-28-2013 06:54 PM

Off season calendar http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/1/8/3852664/nfl-offseason-calendar-2013-free-agency-draft-scouting-combine-important-dates

silver5liter 01-28-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9359447)
couple days after the SB

It actually starts march 12th

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9359459)
It actually starts march 12th

Damn...A month and a half away...

O.city 01-28-2013 06:56 PM

I thought you could sign your own guys the week after the SB?

Chiefs Pantalones 01-28-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9359442)
Me either.

When does FA start by the way?

Once we re-sign Albert, all the talk will be us taking a QB...most likely Geno.

If we tag Albert some people will be thinking we're gonna trade him and draft the LT.

silver5liter 01-28-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359465)
I thought you could sign your own guys the week after the SB?

I do not know that one.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-28-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359465)
I thought you could sign your own guys the week after the SB?

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Right now. RT @ChiefsOsFan When can teams try and sign their own Free Agents before league year starts?

O.city 01-28-2013 06:57 PM

Shit then, lets get this stuff done.

HolyHat 01-28-2013 07:00 PM

You can resign after the SB, March 9-11 is when we can start talking to others I think

keg in kc 01-28-2013 07:00 PM

Can't you sign players before the start of the new league year? I'm a little fuzzy with the rules these days.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-28-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9359480)
You can resign after the SB, March 9-11 is when we can start talking to others I think

Chiefs can sign Albert Bowe now if they want. Can't talk to any other teams Free Agents till Mar 12 at 5pm.

silver5liter 01-28-2013 07:18 PM

Pretty interested to see how Geno measures out at the combine. Hands and height primarily

Chiefs Pantalones 01-28-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9359516)
Pretty interested to see how Geno measures out at the combine. Hands and height primarily

17 days after the Super Bowl. Can't wait.

O.city 01-28-2013 07:23 PM

Looks like Geno has bulked up a bit.

WildTurkey 01-28-2013 08:01 PM

Excellent fan post over at Arrowhead Pride on Geno's accuracy vs Cassel's last season. It's startling how much better Geno already is than what we've thrown out there the last several years

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...and-geno-smith

PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 08:03 PM

Thanks, WildTurkey. I wrote that.

WildTurkey 01-28-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PriestMVP31 (Post 9359649)
Thanks, WildTurkey. I wrote that.

Had a suspicion it was a CP board member who wrote it. Well done

the Talking Can 01-28-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PriestMVP31 (Post 9359649)
Thanks, WildTurkey. I wrote that.

great article

1. you have to be sick to watch that much cassel

2. how ****ing blind and clueless was scott pioli

PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9359674)
great article

1. you have to be sick to watch that much cassel

2. how ****ing blind and clueless was scott *****

1. Yeah, work was slow last week. It was still tough to do. I was originally just going to do four games but I didn't think it was a big enough sample. It became hilarious as the season wore on, he got worse and worse. He wasn't bad in week 1 actually...by his standards. By the end, it was comical.

2. Yeah...still can't believe he put his job on the back of that dude.

PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 08:21 PM

I was reading the Tyler Wilson thread, and they were talking about how much McNabb threw the ball 40+ yards in the air with Reid. I still can't believe Cassel only threw one pass more than 40 yards in the air all year. You'd think he'd accidentally throw a couple more.

HolyHat 01-28-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359536)
Looks like Geno has bulked up a bit.

15 lbs of muscle

the Talking Can 01-28-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PriestMVP31 (Post 9359716)
I was reading the Tyler Wilson thread, and they were talking about how much McNabb threw the ball 40+ yards in the air with Reid. I still can't believe Cassel only threw one pass more than 40 yards in the air all year. You'd think he'd accidentally throw a couple more.

considering we have bowe and baldwin, it's basically like giving up...

players had to hate playing with cassel...

PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 08:31 PM

I also found it interesting that Cassel threw a higher percentage of passes at the LOS than Geno did this year. Wonder what the Geno detractors would say about that?

SAUTO 01-28-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PriestMVP31 (Post 9359770)
I also found it interesting that Cassel threw a higher percentage of passes at the LOS than Geno did this year. Wonder what the Geno detractors would say about that?

Cassel sucks?
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PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 08:32 PM

Yep.

O.city 01-28-2013 08:32 PM

He does look like he's put on some muscle, dunno bout 15 pounds

O.city 01-28-2013 09:13 PM

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy
Remember how you heard a lot about Matt Flynn last year? Media made it seem like he was strongly desired. W/ scouts, he wasn't. Same w/ Geno

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy
It's not that he's not serviceable, but there isn't really anyone in the league I've heard that's sold that Geno Smith as a franchise QB.

keg in kc 01-28-2013 09:14 PM

Well, if a former intern says it's true, it must be true.

SAUTO 01-28-2013 09:15 PM

I wish people would quit posting Scott Pioli's tweets and lists and anything that ****er says, writes, or thinks
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PriestMVP31 01-28-2013 09:17 PM

Didn't Matt Flynn end up getting a huge contract? Usually a scout should be thrilled with a guy to get a contract like that. 19.5 million over 3 years (Flynn's contract) is more than you'd have to pay for Geno in the same amount of time.

O.city 01-28-2013 09:18 PM

Exactly what is a NFL operations manager?

SAUTO 01-28-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359955)
Exactly what is a NFL operations manager?

Isn't that roundabout what Pioli did? Lol
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O.city 01-28-2013 09:20 PM

I have no idea, tried to find it online, couldn't.

Just wondering if it had anything to do with player evals, cause this guy thinks he's pretty good at it.

SAUTO 01-28-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359962)
I have no idea, tried to find it online, couldn't.

Just wondering if it had anything to do with player evals, cause this guy thinks he's pretty good at it.

And he has quite the interest in what we are going to do
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O.city 01-28-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9359965)
And he has quite the interest in what we are going to do
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He tweets about alot of other teams and stuff, but he does make it a point to talk Chiefs.

Jerm 01-28-2013 09:29 PM

What a troll that guy is...

HolyHat 01-28-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359970)
He tweets about alot of other teams and stuff, but he does make it a point to talk Chiefs.

He's made some pretty ridiculous statements about what the chiefs should/could do. See signature

O.city 01-28-2013 09:34 PM

Yeah, he has. It's weird. Most of his stuff is pretty good, then he'll rant on some bs.

HolyHat 01-28-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9360016)
Yeah, he has. It's weird. Most of his stuff is pretty good, then he'll rant on some bs.

He seems like a pretty smart football guy, but he's lost when it comes to the Chiefs.

HolyHat 01-28-2013 09:36 PM

He blocked me after I called him out with his Ryan Mallet bullshit

htismaqe 01-28-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359939)
NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy
Remember how you heard a lot about Matt Flynn last year? Media made it seem like he was strongly desired. W/ scouts, he wasn't. Same w/ Geno

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy
It's not that he's not serviceable, but there isn't really anyone in the league I've heard that's sold that Geno Smith as a franchise QB.

Except that it isn't the same with Geno.

We haven't heard a lot about Geno. The media has NOT AT ALL made it seem like Geno is strongly desired. Quite the opposite actually.

Jerm 01-28-2013 09:44 PM

Me and him arguing on Twitter lol...apparently Geno isn't a WCO QB now...beyond a joke.

Tribal Warfare 01-28-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 9360067)
Me and him arguing on Twitter lol...apparently Geno isn't a WCO QB now...beyond a joke.

What are his credentials to act so high and mighty.

O.city 01-28-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9360146)
What are his credentials to act so high and mighty.

He was a former NFL directions operator? Whatever that is. More likely an intern.

HotCarl 01-28-2013 10:02 PM

the video should be entitled "worthy of some team's #1 pick"

O.city 01-28-2013 10:07 PM

He said WVU's offense is all screens and slants, and thats why his completion perc, is that high.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9360178)
the video should be entitled "worthy of some team's #1 pick"

Like the Chiefs.

RealSNR 01-28-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9360178)
the video should be entitled "worthy of some team's #1 pick"

The Chiefs count as a team.

Boy, when we draft Geno the period blood is going to flow in the streets LMAO

O.city 01-28-2013 10:11 PM

SOmeone, anyone, I need the table about the area of throws.

HolyHat 01-28-2013 10:14 PM

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SOmeone, anyone, I need the table about the area of throws.

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Jerm 01-28-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9360192)
He said WVU's offense is all screens and slants, and thats why his completion perc, is that high.

Yeah he basically called him a system QB and said his offensive scheme skewered the numbers favorably...

HolyHat 01-28-2013 10:15 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBPLjeoCQAEefCH.jpg:large

keg in kc 01-28-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9360047)
Except that it isn't the same with Geno.

We haven't heard a lot about Geno. The media has NOT AT ALL made it seem like Geno is strongly desired. Quite the opposite actually.

Yeah, I found that ironic as well.

O.city 01-28-2013 10:18 PM

Thanks.

-King- 01-28-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9360238)

I posted that on the chiefs forum. Some guy I have a lot of arguments started making fun of Geno because "44%? He sucks! He can't even complete 50% of his deep throws". All that lasted until someone else posted a chart showing that even the best NFL QBs don't complete 50% of their deep throws and even Aaron Rodgers completed only 39% of his. Unsurprisingly, he stopped responding at that point.

-King- 01-28-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9360169)
He was a former NFL directions operator? Whatever that is. More likely an intern.

He said he got a college internship for training camp and then somehow worked his way up to Operations coordinator which is likely BS. Football teams don't do internships for their football operations. All internships are for the business side only.

-King- 01-28-2013 10:25 PM

Does any Geno fan actually think we won't draft him? I don't know if it's just blind faith, but I'm 100% sure he'll be the pick. The Joeckel shit will die down after Albert re-signs and then the media idiots will start mocking Geno to us. But I'm already confident right now that barring a catastrophic proday and terrible interviews, Geno will be the pick.

O.city 01-28-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9360288)
He said he got a college internship for training camp and then somehow worked his way up to Operations coordinator which is likely BS. Football teams don't do internships for their football operations. All internships are for the business side only.

Is this true? If it is, i'm going to probably unfollow him. I like some of his takes, but some are ?

Strongside 01-28-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9360299)
Does any Geno fan actually think we won't draft him? I don't know if it's just blind faith, but I'm 100% sure he'll be the pick. The Joeckel shit will die down after Albert re-signs and then the media idiots will start mocking Geno to us. But I'm already confident right now that barring a catastrophic proday and terrible interviews, Geno will be the pick.

I think he's the pick no doubt. Logic says his stock will soar after the combine and pro days based on his athleticism and arm strength.

B14ckmon 01-28-2013 10:31 PM

I think he's a lock for the pick.

I also think a lot of the Genokids are way too confident that he will be a good NFL QB.

O.city 01-28-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9360328)
I think he's the pick no doubt. Logic says his stock will soar after the combine and pro days based on his athleticism and arm strength.

Athleticism? He's not a GREAT athlete. If anything it will have to be accuracy and his mental game.

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9360299)
Does any Geno fan actually think we won't draft him? I don't know if it's just blind faith, but I'm 100% sure he'll be the pick. The Joeckel shit will die down after Albert re-signs and then the media idiots will start mocking Geno to us. But I'm already confident right now that barring a catastrophic proday and terrible interviews, Geno will be the pick.

I think he'll end up being the pick, just because I think Dorsey & Reid know what they're doing and they'll make the right decision.

But its the Chiefs.

I'll always be weary that the Chiefs will do the right thing.

I can see us not re-signing Albert, signing Alex Smith and drafting Joeckel #1 and the Raiders taking Geno #3.

That's just the kind of heartbreak I've had as a Chiefs fan.

-King- 01-28-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9360310)
Is this true? If it is, i'm going to probably unfollow him. I like some of his takes, but some are ?

Google available internships for any NFL team. Only interships they offer are for the business side. NFL football operations are one of the most secretive businesses in the U.S. They wouldn't let a 21 year old college intern meddle around in it. Hell, most teams don't even allow business employees on the same floor as the football employees. They would never let an intern come anywhere close to football operations.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2013 10:36 PM

Priest31kc's rotating sig is so great.


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