And Kasdan needs to be executed for even allowing this horse shit to flourish under his watch. He had every opportunity to shape and move this thing in a direction that could be meaningful, and chose instead to let morons have the final say on things.

Inexcusable.

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Keenan Allen again is weak in the big games.

Dude talks like he is Antonio Brown but only performs against crap teams outside of one game against the Chiefs.

Star Wars will not survive another Kathleen Kennedy clusterf***

Nothing can be done. JJ has already proven that he sucks at this, Kasdan might as well have not even been involved, and the three top original characters are now dead, with the exception of CGI Leia.

No one gives a **** about Mary Sue because that character was written and handled so shittily, Poe and Finn have ZERO substance and development as characters, Rose just needs to ****ing die, Kylo Ren can't figure out what the **** HE is, and all that leaves is Chewbacca and droids who don't really "talk" and that's probably to their benefit this time around.

**** Disney.

That look of pure horror on his face at the premier when he's standing next to Johnson after watching that piece of shit tells me all I need to know regarding Hamill's "feelings" about TLJ.

I want you to imagine someone walking up to ESB Lando and asking him if he's "****ed any good droids lately"(?)

Seriously; are these people at Disney ****ing reeruned?

Seriously.. there has been zero character development two movies on.. who gives a ****? Kill all of them.

Hey, look, here's another aspect of the new movies that sucks. I hadn't really thought about it. But you're right. In the old trilogy the main characters (mostly) either grew as the show went on or were iconic and just revealed more and more depth to the audience. In the new movies they just flop around like fish on a pier until the credits roll.

There was a lot of character development.

Poe learned to blindly follow his female superiors, even when they do stuff that makes no sense. (And still doesn’t)

Rae has become more powerful than a Sith Lord over a few days span.

Finn learned about what’s truly important: Love.

Princess Mary Poppins ....errr....I guess she didn’t learn or grow for shit

Grand Leader Snoke died. Probably the best character arc ever written

Admiral Ackbar came full circle and fulfilled his destiny of becoming frozen fish.

Luke has always been an unenthusiastic loser that always saw the worst in people until Rae opened his eyes. Wait, what?

Yeah, this was a bad Star Wars movie. No direction and baffling story lines.

ROFLROFLROFL

Man did Disney ever **** up Star Wars.

If I were tapped to finish this trilogy, my Epi 9 would go something like this:


The little bastard kids from the space-kangaroo/horse stables at the end of TLJ steal a good sized space yacht from Lando on Canto Bight. Since the force is so ****ed up in these movies, we'll go ahead and say that the boy with the broom has become powerful enough to track force users through space( see how this works? I can be a reerun too! ).

They travel to a space battle where every single member of the Resistance and the entire First Order are engaged in combat, and things are looking grim for the Resistance.

The spirit of Luke Skywalker, who cares nothing for anyone now that he's dead, uses the force to line the kids' stolen Lando-Yacht up like a killer ace pool-shot, engages the hyperdrive, and everyone dies.

THE END!

Works for me.

The best way I can think to save this piece of shit trilogy is to have the final episode set about 15 years after whatever the **** we just watched in the previous episode.

It would be lame to do, but it would let the writers have a long distance to get away from it all.

Finn and Rose still together? Nope. Rose died fighting somewhere we don't care about.

Finn is still a ****tard character that is given stupid as comedic spots that aren't needed? No. Now he has personally murdered a shit load of people and "seen some shit, man." He is emotionally ****ed, deeply troubled, and out for blood like a true terrorist. Maybe he has started to lean into a Saw Gerrera mentality. He can lead, and people follow like devoted disciples.

Poe is a hothead with an ego and a terrible stand-in for the classic Han role? Now he's older wiser, and maybe has some kind of noticeable battle scar to set his new action figures apart from the previous ones.

The legend and mythos of Rey/Ren is nothing to be impressed by or fear? Now they've got time and battles under their belts. Rey has been training more while Ren has been murdering more.

The resistance was a dozen or fewer aliens and mobile trashcans? Nope. Now it's grown in number and ability.

This is effectively hitting the reset button. I cannot think of any other way to save this dumpster fire. And like I said, this would be lame, but it would be better.

edit: Also have a new rebel character named "Rian" and show Ren melting him in the lava of Mustafar in an attempt to extract information from him during the first act... to really show how far LORD REN has come. Because he needs to be LORD REN by now.

As someone previously mentioned here, the biggest problem with Star Wars is that none of the stories are screaming to be told. Episode IV works well enough as a standalone flick. It was a basic hero's journey story with some Eastern trappings.

If the usual "scoop nerds" are to be trusted, it's been said that this movie will take place at least 2 to 3 years after TLJ.

So, that might help, but it can't stop the fact that Disney and KK just don't get it. They never have from the beginning and TLJ just drove that point home like Clay banging a single mom with big titties and a full-time babysitter.