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ToxSocks 03-05-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467493)
If we don't take Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher with the first pick, we are jackasses for not trading down.

I can listen to any argument about abilities and needs. In fact, I can almost buy the need for Geno Smith (although I still doubt his abilities). but any fool who wastes anything more than a 7 or 8 pick for Geno Smith may as well piss dollars and give away bank accounts. Why take only Smith when you can have Smith and another pick, more cash, or a complimentary player?

For those of you that believe Geno Smith is a number 1 pick, I have a 1976 Ford Fairmount that I will sell you for 29,000.00 cash.

:facepalm:

This, again?

This shit will not stop, ever.

Beeker 03-05-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9467351)
Did you ingest antifreeze as a child?

No. He ingested antifreeze when he joined this forum and had it shoved up his ass with a tree branch ... jus' sayin'

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-05-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9467380)
She's a really annoying internet chick, who posts videos and talks like she's on speed. But she's really cute so she got internet-famous. Her name is Boxxy. I had to ask him the same question a while back lol.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Yavx9yxTrsw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Holy shit. Sorter is even more of a creep than I thought.

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9467494)
:facepalm:

This, again?

This shit will not stop, ever.

Seriously, the vehicle still runs. I will gladly send you pics. Surely you need a competent vehicle that should run for a while for a little more than reasonable price.

The Franchise 03-05-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467493)
If we don't take Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher with the first pick, we are jackasses for not trading down.

I can listen to any argument about abilities and needs. In fact, I can almost buy the need for Geno Smith (although I still doubt his abilities). but any fool who wastes anything more than a 7 or 8 pick for Geno Smith may as well piss dollars and give away bank accounts. Why take only Smith when you can have Smith and another pick, more cash, or a complimentary player?

For those of you that believe Geno Smith is a number 1 pick, I have a 1976 Ford Fairmount that I will sell you for 29,000.00 cash.

lolwut?

The difference between Andrew Luck's contract and Mark Barron's contract is $7 million dollars. It's fully guaranteed either way.

lcarus 03-05-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9467508)
Holy shit. Sorter is even more of a creep than I thought.

If wanting to bang Boxxy makes one a creep, I don't wanna be anything else!

Fish 03-05-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467493)
If we don't take Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher with the first pick, we are jackasses for not trading down.

I can listen to any argument about abilities and needs. In fact, I can almost buy the need for Geno Smith (although I still doubt his abilities). but any fool who wastes anything more than a 7 or 8 pick for Geno Smith may as well piss dollars and give away bank accounts. Why take only Smith when you can have Smith and another pick, more cash, or a complimentary player?

For those of you that believe Geno Smith is a number 1 pick, I have a 1976 Ford Fairmount that I will sell you for 29,000.00 cash.

If a team believes Geno is worth the #7 or #8 pick, then that same team is going to have the same value for Geno at #1. It would be foolish to plan your draft with the intention of trading down. If you're sitting at #1, and think the guy you want will go at 7 or 8, you take him. You can create the imaginary scenario in which you ask yourself "Why take only Smith when you can have Smith +". But you can't approach the draft with that goal in mind.

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9467528)
If a team believes Geno is worth the #7 or #8 pick, then that same team is going to have the same value for Geno at #1. It would be foolish to plan your draft with the intention of trading down. If you're sitting at #1, and think the guy you want will go at 7 or 8, you take him. You can create the imaginary scenario in which you ask yourself "Why take only Smith when you can have Smith +". But you can't approach the draft with that goal in mind.

Low miles on that Fairmount. Do you have an email where you would like me to send pics? After all, it is worth the 29K if the buyer has 29K to spend.

keg in kc 03-05-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9467480)
We don't know. That's the truth.

We don't know what? That Alex Smith is the QB? I guess we don't, technically, but we will a week from today. Officially.

People want to talk about him like he's some over-the-hill retread they can bring in to hold the fort for a year or two. He's not. He's a 29-year old retread that's entering what's generally the prime for QBs. That paired with the purported compensation is not, to me, indicative of a short-term move. I think we're seeing someone being handed the job for the next 5 years, unless he flames out in some epic way.

And don't mistake that as me saying that it's a good move in any way or that he's a good quarterback. I think he's basically a ball and chain that's going to hold us down for the next 5 years, just like Cassel was. Then we get to start all over yet again, as Hali and Bowe and DJ and Albert and Charles all start to head off into the sunset.

But, yeah, we don't know for sure. I think it's a safe assumption to make, though. And we'll know more starting next week, as they start to make other moves.

ToxSocks 03-05-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467510)
Seriously, the vehicle still runs. I will gladly send you pics. Surely you need a competent vehicle that should run for a while for a little more than reasonable price.

There are so many holes in your argument it'll take too much time to dissect, and lord knows we've been killing that argument for months now.

This isn't about Geno Smith the player, but your entire philosophy in general, which is ****ing terrible.

PRIMETIME211 03-05-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9467459)
You can rationalize all you want, but nothing short of seeing them actually do it on draft day is going to convince me it was ever even a remote possibility. I just don't see it happening. People are coming up with all these fantasy scenarios, when the reality is...Alex Smith is our quarterback, and will be our quarterback for the forseeable future. The sooner folks come to grips with that, the less of a disappointment April 25th will be, whatever happens that day.

yes, some people here are in some serious denial, accept it and move on geez

Fish 03-05-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467533)
Low miles on that Fairmount. Do you have an email where you would like me to send pics? After all, it is worth the 29K if the buyer has 29K to spend.

Understandably you're at a loss for how to argue your position.

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9467540)
There are so many holes in your argument it'll take too much time to dissect, and lord knows we've been killing that argument for months now.

This isn't about Geno Smith the player, but your entire philosophy in general, which is ****ing terrible.

I wouldn't say my "entire philosophy" since we don't even know each other.

However, I respect your viewpoint that you believe a risk is worth the cost of the pick. I just heartily disagree with you that his value is not that highly perceived 5 other NFL teams picking after us and that we can always get more for a lesser pick.

If you believe ANY team before the Cardinals will pick Smith, then you are right. If not, you are wrong, it is that simple.

ToxSocks 03-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9467534)
We don't know what? That Alex Smith is the QB? I guess we don't, technically, but we will a week from today. Officially.

People want to talk about him like he's some over-the-hill retread they can bring in to hold the fort for a year or two. He's not. He's a 29-year old retread that's entering what's generally the prime for QBs. That paired with the purported compensation is not, to me, indicative of a short-term move. I think we're seeing someone being handed the job for the next 5 years, unless he flames out in some epic way.

And don't mistake that as me saying that it's a good move in any way or that he's a good quarterback. I think he's basically a ball and chain that's going to hold us down for the next 5 years, just like Cassel was. Then we get to start all over yet again, as Hali and Bowe and DJ and Albert and Charles all start to head off into the sunset.

But, yeah, we don't know for sure. I think it's a safe assumption to make, though. And we'll know more starting next week, as they start to make other moves.

We don't know who the Chiefs are going to take. That was expressed several times in my post, because at this point, it really can be any one.

The compensation for Alex Smith doesn't dictate that he's a long term solution. Whether or not he gets an extension will dictate that.

If Alex doesn't get an extension, then that is very telling of what they think of him and what their long term goals may be.

ToxSocks 03-05-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9467554)
I wouldn't say my "entire philosophy" since we don't even know each other.

However, I respect your viewpoint that you believe a risk is worth the cost of the pick. I just heartily disagree with you that his value is not that highly perceived 5 other NFL teams picking after us and that we can always get more for a lesser pick.

If you believe ANY team before the Cardinals will pick Smith, then you are right. If not, you are wrong, it is that simple.

You assume that the Chiefs would actually HAVE a trade down partner. You also assume that if the Chiefs can in fact trade down, that the team trading UP wouldn't be for a QB.

When was the last time a team traded into the #1 Overall slot for anything other than a QB?


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